Beta vs ktm 2019. 5tq on same dyno but different days. I don’t think many would argue that the KTM and Husky will sell for more and much easier when that time comes in a few years. January 11, 2019. Edited June 15, 2020 by weantright Jan 25, 2019 · All, Getting ready to order via the BYOB program. It’s a weird, crazy bike that no one really understands until they ride one. Light Mode Mar 6, 2020 · That’s John from enduro 21 who’s a very good high level journalist on the Beta 2019 launch making it look easy . Those bikes should be more comparable to the Beta, but, as of now, are still unreleased. so please excuse my ignorance there. The XC-W feels front end heavy, a common trait on the newest generation Austrian machines with the anti-squat frame design. 2025 Honda CRF250RWE Technical Jan 2, 2023 · I have ridden a 2009 KTM 300 XCW and a 2021 KTM 300 XCW TPi, and did not like the power delivery of either, but I did like the power delivery of a 2007 KTM 300 XCW that I owned for a short time. May 10, 2019 · The 2019 Beta 390 RR-S on paper is the most capable off road bike available in the US. How about extra wheel sets both new and used. And flame outs aren't a thing on Beta, but seem to plague my buddies with brand new KTMs. Aug 29, 2022 · sherco vs beta vs ktm vs gasgas: final wrap up I often hear people saying how similar new bikes are too each other these days. It was really hard to not go with the bigger 500 Beta for me, for power reasons. Nov 23, 2021 · Even the Beta 430 makes more power than the street legal KTM500. The slightly softer ZF Sachs suspension is a little more forgiving than the WP Xplor48 fork on the Husky as well. Now that Beta has a 200, it seemed like a natural comparison. Having a common bike can have an upside. Mar 21, 2014 · Beta and KTM may be competitors, but they do share a kinship of sorts. Editors Don Williams and Nic de Sena tell us about the incredibly versatile KTM 890 SMT. For comparison, the new KTM 300XC-W sells for $11,449, and even the Beta 300RR is $10,099. Maybe if they are very similar, Beta 350rrs or Beta 390 would be a better question to ask with instead of Beta 390 vs Ktm 350/Fe350 that i used Apr 2, 2020 · It seems like the most said that the Beta 200 was preferred over the 2019 and earlier ktm150/husqyTE150. Aug 24, 2015 · My Beta Xtrainer is hard to beat in tight single track. 0 EASTERN COMPETITION 4. 2025 KTM 500 EXC-F Six Days First Look. When I rode one (in Michigan singletrack, double track, and on the road), I felt like it had too much power, it felt closer to a 450 than a 250 in my opinion. Would take the 430 over it, and either the Beta 350 or KTM 350 for racing. I owe a 2017 KTM 300, which I'd say has least vibrations of all 300 smokers. The cherry on the top is the Voyager GPS which is standard equipment on all of Beta’s dual-sport bikes. We’ve often praised KTM for being the lightweight champion of the dual-sport world, because the 2019 500EXC we tested was 244 pounds. Apr 8, 2021 · And love the lightweight feel of smaller bikes like a 125 but the 125s are just not enough anymore. I don't think the chart is correct. I felt the KTM had plenty of power for me. Its very similar to the pre 2010 KTM's, lots of v Jul 28, 2017 · Beta is becoming more common bike now but still its 20 ktms for every beta. e. KTM claims that the new 2020 model has 50% more range than the original model and we wanted to test both bikes to find out. I think the Beta might be a better option for me, I ride slow and I like the lower seat of the Beta, but that KTM 450 Six Days is such a beauty!! Edited May 7, 2019 by mramosc May 21, 2019 · To find the best dual-sport motorcycles for anywhere and everywhere, we test four 450-class dual-sport machines. May 12, 2019 · The 200 was practically electric in comparison to those bikes. Side-By-Side Compare All Motorcycles May 14, 2023 · The Beta 300 RX and KTM 300 SX go head-to-head, toe-to-toe in Cycle News Magazine's “open-class” two-stroke motocross duel. 2020 BETA RR-S 390. 2020 KTM 690 Enduro R vs. We loved the KTM and Husqvarna off-road 150s (actually 144cc), and we love the Beta 200. By Allan Brown. The differences are restricted to cranks Beta has built an identity as a legitimate alternative to KTM and Husky with no significant drawbacks. Not only in terms of the engine package, but what Beta can do with a street legal dirt bike. It’s worth pointing out, however, that this was weighed with stock tires. Overall, the Beta 250RR Race Edition is one of the most well-rounded and downright fun machines of the last few years. Jan 11, 2019 · 2019 Beta 390 RR-S Review. The bike also felt heavier and slower steering, a Mar 8, 2012 · KTM 350 - It depends a bit on which one you get specifically (i. Here's where I'm coming from: 1st bike: 2004 CRF230F - Sold. Share Edited December 13, 2019 by HSV-DirtRider. Sep 26, 2019 · I really like the 2019. Feb 15, 2019 · Any of you own a new Beta 390 or 500? Some of the ADV riders I know are looking at Beta after seeing all the work we put into the new KTM's. It seems JavaScript is either disabled or not supported by your browser. Jul 20, 2019 · From 1997 to 2016, KTM offered a 200 EXC, but the class floundered. 45hp/32. EXC/XCFW, or XCF), but the KTM 350 to me feels a lot more aggressive power-wise and a lot taller than the Beta. For decades, the only manufactures making XC specific models were KTM and different versions of Husqvarna. Once upon a time (2004-2009), all four-stroke Beta off-road motorcycles were powered by KTM-designed and built SOHC Singles. Hopefully, we will have the Beta and its Austrian-made competition together for a comparison in the near future. In broad terms, it’s a 300 two-stroke built to a specific price point. Plastics, and consumables are all the same as other 2 stroke models that year and before and engine consumables are the same as the 2020. By HSV-DirtRider, December 11, 2019 in Beta Motorcycles. The bike we have this week is what really put Beta on the map for us. Mar 6, 2019 · Going to get a new truck tomorrow hopefully then head out to see the beta in person Tuesday. Beta 200 vs new 2020 KTM 150xcw/TE150 Theme . cant ride either but seeing the exotic beta in person will be enough to instantly know if im nuts or just crazy to consider it. 0 out of 5. . I’m not sure what the process is for models to pass DOT standards, but it sure seems like the Beta is much more dirt bike than say it’s KTM counterpart. I typically do multiple edits on posts, so when a new addition pops up and looks unfinished, it will get updated usually within a day. I really like the looks as well but I have small concerns about resale value. 9lbs KTM I have seen 234. The reason I am debating this is the maintenance intervals on the ktm vs the 30 hours on my beta. Even if hitting intermediate level single track is See full list on cyclenews. I can get the 2022 KTM and Husky for $10k OTD from a dealer I contacted. Mar 22, 2022 · I've read pretty much everything on the internet twice about the 350 vs the 390 RR-S. My 250 time has been on KTM mostly. Link to comment Share on other sites. The Beta lugs along at slow speeds with more control (this could be because of the Synerject fuel injection) as it is less aggressive on the throttle. Conditions were perfect in the hills and mountains outside of Boise, with an overnight rain creating dust free, chocolatey dirt. Love these bikes! A few years ago, the KTM 200 was discontinued, ending the era of 200s. Only problem is the price tag. Dec 3, 2020 · Since 2017 I've logged over 300 hours on 250 2st's and the same on 125-200's. However, there are some key differences betw We’re in the middle of a one-on-one comparison between the Husqvarna TE150 and the new Beta 200RR. May 11, 2022 · Wouldn't ever buy a 390. Jan 2, 2019 · The resale of the BETA versus KTM cant even be compared. TRAIL 4. 2019 Beta 430 RR-S Review2019 Honda CRF450L Sep 7, 2020 · Ok looking at purchasing a used 300 2 stroke. The 2019 BETA RR Race Edition 390 has an MSRP of $10,299, while the 2019 KTM XC 300 W TPI has an MSRP of $9,899. All attempts at verbal description fall short. 3 #dualsport #motorcycle #betamotor #ktm Beta First Ride Video: https://youtu. Feb 14, 2019 · Just a couple years ago, a 450 Cross Country Bike Shootout would be pretty thin. Sep 20, 2023 · Top-end power falls flat compared to the Beta 300RR or KTM/Husky 300; Beta XTrainer vs KTM 300. Now, all the other 300s have closed in, mostly because Beta raised the bar for the entire class. Compared to my 2018 300RR I felt like it lacked bottom end, mid came smoother, top end felt similar but more controlled. 0 stars 4. FX450 51hp/32tq. Jul 7, 2017 · Beta 300 RR Race Edition $8899 vs KTM 300 XC-W $9099. Jul 10, 2010 · I just rode a 2022 500 rr-s and a 2019 crf450L last month while doing a nebdr. And just fyi, for Beta and Sherco, there's really understandable difference regular vs racing/factory editions to mach the suspension to your riding style Now selling my 250 to get beta rr 200 May 18, 2021 · Gas Gas: like the KTM it has the aluminum subframe. I have also demo ridden either 2019 or 2020 Beta 250 and 300 RRs, and I felt the Beta 300 had too much low end grunt. The MSRP is $11,499. Aug 7, 2019 · Over the weekend I had a chance to ride my buddies 2019 XC-W TPI for about 30 minutes on fairly gnarly and whooped out trails. Also with ktm there is a lot better aftermarket part support. I liked both bikes, but ordered a 500 rr-s. It comes with special graphics, a seat cover and, of course, the KYB fork. There are a lot of riders very fond of two-strokes. The beta is less corked and produces more power, no claimed hp numbers. The KTM of the time was hokey with an afterthought electric starter and spotty Nov 7, 2019 · Im gonna try and find out how the Beta 350rrs vs Ktm 350 exc/Husqvarna Fe 350 compares with each other. I am hoping someone has ridden both beta and ktm back to back and will have some info. Wondering if there is a compelling reason to order a 390 over a 350? From what I read the Beta 350 has the equivalent power of a KTM 350 excf. My beta weighs around 311lbs as it sits with gear etc. Nov 24, 2018 · The 2019 Beta 350 RR-S’s ZF Sachs suspension setup is dual-sport soft rather than race-hard. The Beta Xtrainer is softer in every way, while the KTM 300 has more power that’s snappier, and the suspension is stiffer, which makes the KTM better if you’re a faster or more aggressive rider/racer. KTM is super corked up. The “how” of this is fairly straightforward. Would I buy on Jan 20, 2020 · Beta claimed weight is 242. Feb 28, 2020 · Very happy with the 2020 forks on the standard model 250. The four larger models all share the same chassis and even most of the same motor. Dirt Bikes. Could There’s nothing like the Beta Xtrainer. Dec 11, 2019 · Beta 2020 Counterbalanced 300 vs KTM 300. Feb 28, 2020 · 2020 Beta 200rr vs. I would say the 250 is up 20% on power everywhere through the rpm range. All of the Beta two-strokes are carbureted, the 250RR uses a 36mm Keihin PWK. I don't know anything about KTM's cryptic coding XCW, etc. 2019 Beta 300RR. 1hp/25. Also as ADVlite mentioned, the KTM suspension is not great. Beginning with the 2010 model year, Beta bide arriva derci to KTM and introduced its own proprietary Single. But I look as them as sunk costs because I trash the hell out of my bikes because I ride alot of gnarely stuff. Mar 14, 2019 · Can anyone compare Beta vs KTM Oil Injection? By redrider144, March 14, 2019 in Beta Motorcycles. By PNW Enduro, February 28, I am 150lbs and the 2019 is sprung perfectly. I would put my own YZ250X in between, if a “relative” scale of 1 to 10 on vibration: Beta 200RR = 1 YZ250X = 3 Beta 250/300 = 10 Dec 29, 2010 · Looking for some input on the new Beta 200rr vs an older KTM 200. 2 hp and 28 pound-feet of torque at 6,500 rpm. Not saying the Beta isn't capable, but it's heavier, the suspension will need work and it's got some weird quirks to it Apr 7, 2019 · You may want to reconsider the KTM 500 EXC, lighter, more HP and better fuel economy than the Honda! Ride the Honda then the KTM 500 EXC and you will be able to make an informed decision! The KTM 690 is about 20 lbs lighter than your DR650 but the 500 EXC is 100 lbs lighter than the DR 650 and 30 lbs lighter than the Cfr 450. You have a lot more choices for both wear, cosmetic and performance parts. Said another way, if vibration matters to you, I would NOT buy a Beta 250 or 300, but would have no anxiety with the 200. And in the off-road segment and the increasing popularity of more extreme type events and the riding styles this fosters, the 300cc two-stroke is the weapon of choice. I pulled the trigger on a 390 and like it so far, minus my lack of tuning the suspension settings. I have a KTM890AdvRR and wanted smaller and lighter for woods and singletrack. As much as this may be the case when comparing specifications, it didn’t take long for all of us testers to realise this couldn’t be any further from the truth with this bunch of bikes. be/FSaZtpuODRUI've owned my Beta 500 RR-S Dual Sport for one year. At one time, there were legitimate reasons to go Beta over the 300 mainstays. Motorcycle manufacturers continue to sell two-strokes in big numbers, and European companies like Beta continue to invest in new tooling and new technology, banking on the fact that the two-stroke will continue to appeal to off-road Aug 11, 2018 · Thinking about a Beta 300 (2018 or 2019) there is a question about engine vibrations. Jun 3, 2024 · I know the ktm won’t be as good in the dirt as my beta. It compares favorably to my long-gone but missed KTM 200 EXC. There have always been the trail models, such as the CRF-Xs, the WR-Fs, and a KLX and RMX-Z here and there, but if you wanted a cross country race machine, you’d start with the motocross bike and modify it Tried Beta and Sherco 300's as well, awesome bikes, but I'm much quicker on the 200. It was clear that KTM and Husqvarna were offering the 150s as a replacement. Lol. Michelin Enduro tires are legal and have fair grip. 8-235lbs claimed The Beta is lighter than the 2017- 2019 version KTM, but not sure for the new gen. 2019 FX350 49. 250 for me is a tad too much bike so figured the ktm 150/200 would be well suited but like I said almost impossible to find a newer model 200 so weighing the beta 200 since they’re easily found. They got even better after the first oil change at 12 hrs. I've got my eye on a 2017 KTM 300 xc, and a 2019 Beta 300 RR. The MSRP is $8299. 0 May 21, 2019 · The 2019 Honda CRF450L secured a podium finish on the dyno battle with 38. You don't buy a Beta for the HP but for rideability. The Beta also comes with decent, dirt-worthy Michelin tires and rim locks, whereas the KTM has Continental tires that are heavily street oriented. Jul 30, 2024 · Another stark difference (did we mention just how different these two bikes feel on the trail?) is the front end bias on the KTM vs the Beta. 2nd bike: 2002 KTM 200 EXC (2t) - Still have. The purpose of this thread is to document a wide array of the technical and experiential aspects of the 2019 (and many years) of Beta off road and street legal off road motorcycles. Full out for preload (I tried several times at around 2 turns in but the action got sudden sometimes in rough places using quickly the travel in big hits) and 120 mm air gap (9 N/mm at lower clamp from the very beginning). It brings a little more to the table than the smaller two-strokes, but doesn’t give away any of the fun factor. There are two all-new off-road 450s that will be available for 2019—the Yamaha WR450F and the Honda CRF450X. 3rd bike: 2016 Suzuki DR650 - Still have. the Beta imo has a better motor than the 150tpi and I’ve had both but the suspension compared to a yz125x is crap yes it has more bottom end but small bore bikes are about having fun and if I wanted to grunt about all day Beta lets its experience with trials bikes influence the 300RR. T he two-stroke uprising is alive and well, though there really isn’t much to rise up against. My second bike is 2018 GasGas 300 GP which has considerably more vibes than the KTM. The 2019 Beta 200 RR is based on the existing 125 RR platform. I have ridden the new Beta 200 (along with all their other bikes at a demo day), and consider it to be pure magic. Share 2019 by redrider144. The KTM is a better race bike. I've never rode a Beta 250 so I can't give you my opinion for that. 1tq vs. I was impressed with the stock beta, while crf cost more due to suspension work, vortex and pipe. Beta gets a pass on EPA standards for their status as a small company vs KTM which sells more bikes impacting the environment. Feb 3, 2023 · Both the KTM 300 and the beta 300 are top-performing enduro bikes and are known for their off-road capabilities. When the 300RR arrived about four years ago, it blew us away because it was so much more refined than we thought possible, with an integrated electric starter and clean jetting. Oct 16, 2020 · Husqvarna FE501 vs Beta RR480. Some even fanatical. Nov 6, 2018 · Beta doesn't have any demos scheduled in norther California, but they do have one for southern Cal in June, I just signed up so I'll be trying them. KTM 150XC-W TPI. Look for plastic for beta then ktm. I am wondering mostly about the 2019 Beta knowing they didn't counter balance the motor until 2020. The 2017 line has a 500, a 430, a 390, a 350 and a new 125. But hey, if you love anodized orange stuff; then KTM has half a million reasons you should pick their bike! Oct 26, 2019 · Just not sure if it would be better than what I all ready have. Both bikes are both is the same price range. The 250 has the potential of being faster. Nov 6, 2021 · I was looking into the KTM 500 when I started researching the Beta’s. I still don't know which bike is for me. I commute a good bit on the beta, 6 miles back and forth to work around 6 miles and 45 mph speed limits. See a side-by-side comparison of these Motorcycle models to help you decide on your next Motorcycle purchase. Pipe will be the same so, no issues there when aftermarket comes out and the silences are the same as all models back to 2013. Surprisingly, the 2019 Husqvarna FE 450 with a shorter stroke and 60cc less Jul 20, 2019 · From 1997 to 2016, KTM offered a 200 EXC, but the class floundered. The frame on both was smaller than the 250 and 300s, which yields a lower seat height and, in my opinion, makes the bike easier to handle. The Beta 350RR-S sells for $11,499. com Beta offers five dual-sport bikes, all made in a small Italian factory with 10 percent of KTM’s capacity. I have a 2016 beta 390 rr which is a great bike but I like how fun the 200 is and am thinking of sell it to fund a beta 200 or a 2016 Ktm 200xcw. I I personally ride a 2019 KTM 300XC-W TPI that has been carefully massaged in all the right places, and this was my comparison tool. Unlike the KTM, Honda and Husky dual-sport bikes, the Beta comes with rim locks. if it looks and feels good ill take it, if not ill grab the ktm on the way back home. Their Sachs suspension works well on the 390 and 300 2T from riders I know Jun 5, 2020 · No it doesn't,,, or at least the 2019 430RR 44. This year, the 2019 Beta 200 RR rekindles the 200-class fire. My last bike that I recently sold was a 2015 KTM 350 excf. Riding Beta’s middleweight dual-sport model. I probably could sell my 500 within 80% of what I paid new after 4700 miles(of course this all depends on region too). The Continental TKC80 tires on the KTM are a good 5 pounds lighter than the Beta’s Michelins. The main difference is the power and suspension. I fell into the ride a beta, buy a beta program. Ktm 250 vs Beta 200rr I can. 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